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Do you think being nice is more important than talent?
#31
.......... Really? Are you seriously going to use that tone with me? I really don't appreciate how you're talking to me right now.

(09-29-2013, 03:45 PM)Mutsukki Wrote:
(09-29-2013, 09:42 AM)E-Man Wrote: As for what I mean about why talent would be not as important as being nice, I was actually referring to how talented people are probably not nice on the inside.

What. That's an horrible generalization, what makes you be so sure of that? You should drop this act, seriously.

Who said I was talking about all talented people? If you ever met a guy called Tom Preston, you'll see what I mean by this.

(09-29-2013, 03:45 PM)Mutsukki Wrote:
(09-29-2013, 09:42 AM)E-Man Wrote: Sure, they pretend to be nice at first (much like "Koopaul" implied), and when they get a lot of admiration, they keep this mask on...... However, when someone starts to get into this guy's face for whatever reason (it doesn't matter if it's a justified reason or a pointless reason), then we see the true colors of this "nice" person.

What the actual fuck. I was trying to keep calm until now, but how the fuck it doesn't matter if it's justified or not? if someone get's in your face, you're gonna get angry. This ideal of "being nice to everyone ever" is really really bad and, if anything, fake.

Okay, I will admit that it's fine to lose your temper every now and then, but if you can, try to keep it in. Besides, when I usually lose my cool, people lose a lot of respect in me and point out how childish I was. How could it not be a universal thing?

(09-29-2013, 03:45 PM)Mutsukki Wrote:
Quote:While I would like a few sprites, I would rather have a steady friendship than a bunch of little images any Tom, Dick, or Harry would slap into a sprite comic.

Jesus Christ, are you serious? You basically just admitted yourself to entering a relationship out of interest, but being "ok" with it because the person is nice to you.

Did you even read my post before all that? I said I didn't care about his sprites. What I meant was if he offered me a sprite request, I would more than likely take it. It's not like I'm going to beg him for sprites. I talk to him because I like his company.


EDIT: On second thought, I would rather not argue with you now. Please forgive me if I ticked you off in any way. How about we just end it at this and call it a night?
(02-27-2014, 07:31 PM)Gors Wrote: DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SUCK. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SHOW YOUR SUCKY ART. I think this needs to go noticed to everyone, because sucking is not failing. Sucking is part of the fun of learning and if you don't suck, then you won't own at pixelart

it's ok to suck, sucking is not bad, just try and aim to always do your best!
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#32
I don't really care if you appreciate my tone or not, I'm kinda angry by how you keep trying to pin the blame on other people for them not sympathizing with you.

Quote:Who said I was talking about all talented people? If you ever met a guy called Tom Preston, you'll see what I mean by this.

Huh? I don't know if you used Preston as a good example or bad, because I actually think Preston is very childish and not really all that talented, but I don't judge every artist based on this one guy I saw on the internet. You seem to have some sort of fantasy view that every good artist is going to be a prick.

Quote:Okay, I will admit that it's fine to lose your temper every now and then, but if you can, try to keep it in. Besides, when I usually lose my cool, people lose a lot of respect in me and point out how childish I was. How could it not be a universal thing?

Why? If the person is bothering me or being a dick, I'm not gonna be nice to them. "How could it not be a universal thing?"? Maybe not everyone who gets angry at someone are childish and lose respect, I don't know?

Quote:Did you even read my post before all that? I said I didn't care about his sprites. What I meant was if he offered me a sprite request, I would more than likely take it. It's not like I'm going to beg him for sprites. I talk to him because I like his company.

Of course I read, but that was either a freudian slip or I interpreted that completely wrong, because even in the context "while I would like a few sprites" sounds like you're unsatisfied about this aspect.
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#33
Okay, I'm very sorry I unintentionally made you angry. I only wanted to throw my two cents about and see what kind of answers I would get.

Forgive me for any arguments it caused.
(02-27-2014, 07:31 PM)Gors Wrote: DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SUCK. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SHOW YOUR SUCKY ART. I think this needs to go noticed to everyone, because sucking is not failing. Sucking is part of the fun of learning and if you don't suck, then you won't own at pixelart

it's ok to suck, sucking is not bad, just try and aim to always do your best!
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#34
Okay, this argument is obviously going nowhere. Take it up in PM's if you really feel the need to, but I don't see this being resolved any time soon.

Edit: Welp, ninja'd by E-Man. But an apology is a perfect note to end the thread on, I think.
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#35
Just as a note, don't take it personally if someone seems like they're mad at something you said, that's just what happens online. We all mean well in this community and these guys are all trying to help. Some of these people get more worked up than others but I wouldn't get angry over it as ultimately it is still all criticism, in some form. And, to your benefit, this shows you how different people are and how you can deal with them. I think in the end you handled it quite well. Just keep your head up, take the advice you're given, work on it and I think you'll turn out fine!
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