#SmashBrosUltimate - Smash Bros for Switch.

[Retro64]

Got some more spirit ideas! 
What do you mean the game is out already and all the spirits have been revealed?!
Well I guess I'll share them anyways   .
But in all seriousness I can't play it until Christmas so, I thought I'll pass the time until I can play it too.. 
Cheers!

DK Series: Lockjaw & Snapjaw:
A red and purple piranha plant (purple one is stronger). Increased swimming speed and can't drown. Played on Pitate ship. Snakey Chantey plays.

Banjo-Kazooie Series: Conga & Chimpy:
Giant Red PAC-MAN sits on a alolan executor throwing oranges. Mini Diddy sits on the bottom. Played on Omega Gaur Plains.

Yoshi's Island Series: Ukiki:
Hoard of tiny tanooki Pac-Mans (Pac-Men?) who only throw melons. Played on Yoshi's Island.

Yoshi's Island Series: Harry Hedgehog:
Hoard of mini sonics that will randomly grow then shrink again. Played on Great Cave Offensive.

EarthBound / Mother Series: Enraged Fire Plug:
Invisible Pac-Mans (Pac-Men?) create fire hydrants. Played on Fourside.

DK: Series: Screech:
Dark Falco with increased air mobility. Played on Reset Bomb Forest (Because of the brambles). Crocodile Cacophony plays.

[Retro64]

"...It wouldn't surprise me if it's somebody's job over there to go through the old concept art and drawn cels..."

According to a translation from source gaming (https://www.sourcegaming.info/2018/12/12...velopment/) that's actually pretty close to what happened. According to the article they also did research on many different series to get spirit ideas. Makes sense, most Nintendo employees, even most Nintendo fans won't remember super obscure characters like Swanky Kong, or Rodger the Potted Ghost.

[Kriven]

You have no idea how excited I was when I first stumbled across Roger, actually. It was kind of a bummer that the only other Yoshi's Island boss in World of Light was Raphael. Where's my Marching Milde at? Sluggy the Unshaven?

[Retro64]

You have no idea how excited I was when I first stumbled across Roger, actually. It was kind of a bummer that the only other Yoshi's Island boss in World of Light was Raphael. Where's my Marching Milde at? Sluggy the Unshaven?

At least it's better than what Smash 4 had... (Baby Mario and Luigi, Kamek, and Shy Guys where all under Mario, all Yoshi had was well... Yoshi)

[NICKtendo DS]

I have no doubt that more Spirits will be added along the way, like Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee, so it's still open for speculation in that regard.

What I do hope is that there will be more Mii Costumes. The Rex Costume could be a sign that there will be, though nothing's for certain. I've been spending time making all sorts of Mii Fighters and the new hair and eye color options add a lot. The voice options are great too. I expected 12 to mean 4 types times 3 pitches, but it's actually 12 types times 3 pitches, plus no voice. I'm a little peeved though now that I'm able to give my Princess character the correct hair color, the Cat Ears from Smash 4 that was a perfect fit for her are gone. Let's not forget all the third-party Mii Costumes that are gone too, though I can see all of them returning sooner or later, perhaps to add a penny to the pockets of their respective rights-holders.

Mii Fighters I made so far (Note that most of them are based on the available costumes):
Brawlers:
Lemming, Waluigi, Shy Guy, Nia, Yoshi (Woolly World), Labo Iwata, Lara Croft, Miriam (Bloodstained), Ribbon Girl, Skull Kid, Spring Man, Toad, Alex Kidd, Mr. Iwata (Business Suit)
Swordfighters:
Goemon, Dunban, Rex, Nikki (Artwork version, wears Link's Tunic), Vince (Art Academy), Takamaru, Yiga Clan, Ashley, Lip (Panel de Pon), Black Knight (B. Knight, because character limit), Viridi, Isaac (Golden Sun)
Gunner:
Porky (Earthbound), Copen (Gunvolt), Dr. Eggman, Doomslayer, Nikki Mii (Wears Isabelle Costume), Vault Boy (Fallout series), Duke Nukem, Amelia, Ray Mk.III, Saki (Sin & Punishment), Princess (OC, Princess Fantasy Catventure, lacks ears ), Gordon (Half-Life series)

I have characters like Peter Pepper Jr. on stand-by, because I expected some hats and/or costumes to be there, but they're not. In Pepper Jr.'s case, a chef's hat.

[Marth]

I haven't touched spirit mode, so I really don't understand spirits and look at them like what trophy's used to be in melee. I love the game however, since they fixed the online, I'm dunking people left and right. It took a whole week of getting dunked to figure out how the game worked, since this is my first time playing smash competitively—it also took far too long for me to stop inputting quarter circle turns for attacks—but now that I understand it, I get the hype. It's crazy fun.

Also Elite Smash is wild, like the guys you find in there are just off the wall.

[MarioSonicfan98]

You know, this Smash is using too much characters from previous games, the next Smash should cut off several characters from previous games, (Not the first twelve characters) especially the Wii Fit Trainers, because they should get relegated to assist trophies, despite the fact they were not playable in Wii Fit.

[Kriven]

You know, this Smash is using too much characters from previous games, the next Smash should cut off several characters from previous games, (Not the first twelve characters) especially the Wii Fit Trainers, because they should get relegated to assist trophies, despite the fact they were not playable in Wii Fit.

No.

[MarioSonicfan98]

You know, this Smash is using too much characters from previous games, the next Smash should cut off several characters from previous games, (Not the first twelve characters) especially the Wii Fit Trainers, because they should get relegated to assist trophies, despite the fact they were not playable in Wii Fit.

No.

You've got to be kidding me.

[NICKtendo DS]

I'd rather have a different character than Incineroar, but I wouldn't piss on the parade of his fans.

[DioShiba]

You know, this Smash is using too much characters from previous games, the next Smash should cut off several characters from previous games, (Not the first twelve characters) especially the Wii Fit Trainers, because they should get relegated to assist trophies, despite the fact they were not playable in Wii Fit.

No.

You've got to be kidding me.

I agree with Kriven on this one.

Consider the following:

1) There isn't really a point to cutting out characters unless it's due to time constraints or system limitations, or budget issues. Besides, everyone wanted a smash where they can have everyone from all the previous games for some time. You also have to consider that Sakurai and his team have always considered making their characters as accurate as possible when they add them in.

2) Wii Fit Trainer practically represents the Wii Fit series and the peripheral for the console. Same thing can apply for R.O.B. and Game and Watch. Even Duck Hunt if you consider that's actually three characters in one: The Dog, The Duck, and the guy holding the NES zapper.

3) Just saying that there's too many characters when there are fighting games that a more absurd amount of characters in them is a moot point. Look up Tobal 2 for PS1 and then come back and tell me that having 200 characters isn't as insane as 80 characters given that's on a console less powerful than the Switch.

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Another point that I would like to add: If any characters get cut in the next smash most likely it will be third parties like Snake or Cloud considering budgets and licensing. But that's really about it. Since Smash is pretty much one of nintendo's cash cows and has become a staple in anyone's video game collection business wise I don't think it would make much sense to cut characters.

[Retro64]

Smash Ultimate is fantastic, probably my favorite in the series.
I really like spirits mode and I think they are more than a suitable replacement to trophies.
However, I have few nitpicks on things that don't really make much sense.

Weird usage of sprites & renders instead of art:
Some Earthbound Spirits (specifically Master Belch & Ramblin' Evil Mushroom) for some reason don't use their official art:



Pokemon Spirits:
Every single Pokemon spirit uses this bland almost clip art art-style. Nothing from Ken Sugimori at all.
So instead of this:
or this
We got this:

Why? I can possibly excuse the EarthBound ones because the art is rare and obscure, but there's really not an excuse that every single Pokemon spirit is bland and kinda ugly.
If anybody has any idea why they did this, I would really like to know.

[Kriven]

Would've been dope if they had used some artwork from the Pokemon card game.

[DioShiba]

Honestly speaking of card games it'd be fucking sick as all hell if the next smash just made use of a TGC system and made in game cards a thing with illustrations from different artists but that'd be effort.

[NICKtendo DS]

At least Partner Pikachu and Partner Eevee aren't clip-art, though they do leave a 2-slot-sized hole between my complete list of 1297 spirits and the 3 spirits I got from the Mario event. I'm still waiting for them to become available to everyone.

I'm happy there's confirmation, though very low key, of Mii Costume DLC coming in the future. I've been making Miis like crazy; I've created over 50 now! I need help. I hope that the DLC extends to voices too. Imagine having NES noises as a voice for example.