Mutantyoshi's M&L:BIS sprites

[mutantyoshi]

their bigger than you think. Bowser Jr. was pretty huge in galaxy, and now the koopalings are(On average) slightly taller than him. dun dun dun

but in Galaxy, they made him really big, and in NSMBW, they are making him like the size of Mario. but the koopalings are way bigger now.

[Wes]

The Koopalings are Bowser's children. Children as in smaller than adults. None of them should be more than half of Bowser's height. Except for maybe Iggy, because NSMBW made him tall and thin. But I don't include hair when measuring this height. Just make the top of their heads be at around Bowser's mouth, maybe lower for the smaller ones like Lemmy and Larry.

Also, when comparing their heights, don't use Galaxy as a reference. All o the main-series games make both Bowser and Bowser Jr. a lot larger. In Sunshine, Jr. was taller than Peach and Bowser was looked like he was 30 feet tall. galaxy made Bowser about 3x Mario's height when you battled him, and it made Jr. a little bit taller than Mario. In the RPGs, Bowser is never more than twice Mario's height. Jr. should therefore be a little bit smaller than Mario. ALl of the Koopalings except for Lemmy should be just a little bit taller, all around Mario's height.

[Azure-Tranquility]

The Koopalings are Bowser's children. Children as in smaller than adults. None of them should be more than half of Bowser's height. Except for maybe Iggy, because NSMBW made him tall and thin. But I don't include hair when measuring this height. Just make the top of their heads be at around Bowser's mouth, maybe lower for the smaller ones like Lemmy and Larry.

Also, when comparing their heights, don't use Galaxy as a reference. All o the main-series games make both Bowser and Bowser Jr. a lot larger. In Sunshine, Jr. was taller than Peach and Bowser was looked like he was 30 feet tall. galaxy made Bowser about 3x Mario's height when you battled him, and it made Jr. a little bit taller than Mario. In the RPGs, Bowser is never more than twice Mario's height. Jr. should therefore be a little bit smaller than Mario. ALl of the Koopalings except for Lemmy should be just a little bit taller, all around Mario's height.

ah okay. Is true for Ludwig, Morton and Roy as well?

[Ridge Troopa]

Wes is right about Sunshine and Galaxy being bad size refs. For some reason Bowser and Jr. are huge in both games. In addition I'd also like to point out that the Sports games are not a good size ref for Bowser, as he's always shrunk down a bit for those.

All of the Koopalings are smaller than Bowser, however the only one smaller than Mario is Lemmy (not counting hair). Morton and Roy are not much smaller than Bowser now, as they're pretty big. However they will still be smaller than Bowser because they're younger. Wes, I'm not sure why you decided to say that they're all the same size as one another -- it's clearly obvious that they are not. They all have proportionate sizes in relation to one another and in relation to Mario, and MY, you should find what those sizes are. Getting a direct size reference from the NSMBWii intro or any of the boss fights would be a good idea.


MutantYoshi, you're also forgetting that the bigger Koopalings need depth like Bowser. If you compare the battle and overworld Bowsers, you will see that the forward overworld Bowser has more depth and appears shorter, whereas he's really not. You need to apply this same depth to the Koopalings.

[Azure-Tranquility]

Wes is right about Sunshine and Galaxy being bad size refs. For some reason Bowser and Jr. are huge in both games. In addition I'd also like to point out that the Sports games are not a good size ref for Bowser, as he's always shrunk down a bit for those.

All of the Koopalings are smaller than Bowser, however the only one smaller than Mario is Lemmy (not counting hair). Morton and Roy are not much smaller than Bowser now, as they're pretty big. However they will still be smaller than Bowser because they're younger. Wes, I'm not sure why you decided to say that they're all the same size as one another -- it's clearly obvious that they are not. They all have proportionate sizes in relation to one another and in relation to Mario, and MY, you should find what those sizes are. Getting a direct size reference from the NSMBWii intro or any of the boss fights would be a good idea.


MutantYoshi, you're also forgetting that the bigger Koopalings need depth like Bowser. If you compare the battle and overworld Bowsers, you will see that the forward overworld Bowser has more depth and appears shorter, whereas he's really not. You need to apply this same depth to the Koopalings.

This may be a bit off topic, but what do you consider the easier style? PiT or BiS?(More in terms of Overwolrd)

[mutantyoshi]

well, to me they are both the same difficulty, when it comes to the over world, I'm not sure about the battle sprites though. But I may be wrong...

and I will update the Koopalings soon.

[Ridge Troopa]

BIS style is simpler and uses less shades than PiT. So I'd have to say PiT was more difficult just because of the shading.

Oh, I forgot to mention, MY, I think you should try fixing the shading on Iggy's hair. It looks unclean.

[Darking]

sorry for the inactivity... but here, these are the characters that I will be attempting to do for the new custom BIS sprite project

this is what I have so far.

The Yoshi's head in the front pose is fatter than the one from the back pose.

[mutantyoshi]

How are Morton and Iggy now?

[Azure-Tranquility]

How are Morton and Iggy now?

Iggy's hair looks like it has depth now. Morton's shell is now somewhat viewable.

All in all, those are improvements imo. What does Ridge think?

[Luigi-the-Chef]

How are Morton and Iggy now?

Looking sweet!

[mutantyoshi]

sorry for the long wait, what do you think of this



By the way, I only made the Morton, not anyone else, just to get that clear. (in the battle form)

[mutantyoshi]

I keep forgetting to post these power ups.



note, I didn't rip the mushrooms, or the fireflowers, just use them as a base/size thing... hope you enjoy, and what do you think of the battle for Morton?

[Luigi-the-Chef]

I keep forgetting to post these power ups.
image that I'm too lazy to quote

note, I didn't rip the mushrooms, or the fireflowers, just use them as a base/size thing... hope you enjoy, and what do you think of the battle for Morton?

I think they look good! BTW, the Bottom Iggy looks better. Right Roy's best.
Dude, you gonna make a sheet of this?
Edit: I see a SMB3 beta Hammer Bro. suit that has been mistaken for a Toad suit! People EVERYWHERE do that. Not a mistake so far.
Maybe you could start on Ludwig?
Are you and Ridge working together as a M&L 3 Koopa Kid Project?
Ask him if he'd start one and that would ROCK HARD!
Is that a different Larry Battle? If so, it's actually better than Ridge's!

[mutantyoshi]

I keep forgetting to post these power ups.
image that I'm too lazy to quote

note, I didn't rip the mushrooms, or the fireflowers, just use them as a base/size thing... hope you enjoy, and what do you think of the battle for Morton?

I think they look good! BTW, the Bottom Iggy looks better. Right Roy's best.
Dude, you gonna make a sheet of this?
Edit: I see a SMB3 beta Hammer Bro. suit that has been mistaken for a Toad suit! People EVERYWHERE do that. Not a mistake so far.
Maybe you could start on Ludwig?
Are you and Ridge working together as a M&L 3 Koopa Kid Project?
Ask him if he'd start one and that would ROCK HARD!
Is that a different Larry Battle? If so, it's actually better than Ridge's!

I don't know if Ridge would like to do that, and that is Ridges newest one, he changed his look, to make him fit more like his new style than his old one. and thanks for your options about Roy