Character Tweaks [revamped first post!]

[tsr moderation staff]

like castlevania style? I'm all for that

[Bazzoka]

I don't know if this should go in Waluigi's topic or in this one, but I'm putting it in this one anyway.

What's Waluigi's entrance going to be? Should it be his home entrance in Strikers Charged?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rj34RSTq...re=related @ 0:23

[Cshad]

That goes in the Waluigi topic I'm pretty sure, as this thread is for tweaking pre existing characters

[Cshad]

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Not this again. Read the past few pages for each and every point as to why it should be Rockin and Love and why Startstorm should be an assist.

[Iceman404]

Why not just give Ness PK Gamer? (I think that's what it was called...) It was pretty powerful in Earthbound.

[Chaoxys]

Why not just give Ness PK Gamer? (I think that's what it was called...) It was pretty powerful in Earthbound.

I believe PK Gamer is the move invented by the folks making the fangame Mother 4. Ness's move was PK Rockin.

[Iceman404]

Mother 4?

EDIT: Oh, this?
http://mother4.dcmsoftware.net/

But I couldv'e sworn both PK Rockin', and PK Game were in Earthbound (SNES).

[Ton]

I don't even think Gaming was a verb when Earthbound came out.

[Iceman404]

O_e....
My memory must be really screwed up then....Nevermind...

[Blitz]

Toon Link Moveset
UpB Roc's Cape: Puts it on and jumps really high
DownB Cane of Pacci: A counter move.If attacked TLink will use the Cane of Pacci to flip the opponent, thus dealing damage.
B Sling Shot: Like Bow but has a higher range but less power.
Up/DownSmash: His hat turns into Ezlo and he pecks upwards or downwards.

Also he should have his Shield and the Lokomo Sword from LOZpirit Tracks

[Wes]

There have been a lot of Toon Link suggestions. I want to finalize a B move set. But we've agreed that items are B moves and A moves are sword attacks. He will not use the Bow, Boomerang, Bombs, or the Hookshot (or Spin Attack) to separate him from regular Link. I have a list of all items aside from these 4 in each of the 6 Toon Link games (Four Swords, The Wind Waker, Four Swords Adventures, The Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks). I'll also give ideas on how it could be used in Smash Bros)

Four Swords:
Bow-Wow (a Chain Chomp, Link holds the chain)
Gnat Hat (makes Link shrink)
Magnetic Glove (pulls others towards Link, or pushes them away)
Roc's Cape (Link jumps really high and can glide after he peaks his jump)

Wind Waker:
Telescope (not really a weapon, but I guess Link could smack people with it)
Grappling Hook (can grab ledges to tether and maybe take the item another person is holding and makes Link hold it, assuming he isn't already holding something. Also grabs items that are farther away on the stage)
Deku Leaf (Link fans it, and shoots a gust of wind forward. In midair, a wind vortex appears under him and make shim float upwards. At the peak height, he can glide with it)
Skull Hammer (smashes stuff. What else would you expect?)
Iron boots (makes him walk slow? Maybe if used in midair, he drops immediately and can spike people, and when wearing them he isn't hit as far, as though he has a metal box)
Magic Armour (maybe his shield? just as an aesthetic change)
Empty Bottle (I'd love to see this as his B attack, and it could reflect stuff like in Phantom Ganon fights)

Four Swords Adventures:
Carrot (in game it calls Epona for you to ride. I guess she could come along and trample through the stage)
Fire Rod (shoots a fireball)
Lamp (just like the Fire Rod, but the fireball is only directly infront of you, not shot forward)
Pegasus Boots (Link could hold his sword forward and Dash, plowing through people like Jiggs's B or Yoshi's Side B)
Roc's Feather (see Roc's Cape in FS)
Shovel (maybe he could beat people over the head with it, or make a large scoop into the ground infront of him, burying anyone standing there like Dk's Side B)
Slingshot (shoots a small, weak pebble an ammuntion. If charged, it glows and shot and flies further, doing more damage. just a faster, weaker Bow. But maybe it could shoot in 3 directions like in FSA)

The Minish Cap:
Flame Lantern (see FSA's Lamp)
Pegasus Boots (see FSA's Pegasus Boots)
Gust Jar (can be held to suck people in closer to you. If they get to close, they get stuck int he jar, in which case the are comically half inside like Wario's bite. Link can walk when they are int he jar, but they can mash buttons to get free like in a grab. If someone's in it and you release B, they got shot out, like Kirby if he didn't swallow someone but spit them out)
Cane of Pacci (Link waves the cane and a short bit of magic star dust stuff shoots out a bit in front of him. flips people over, or turns them around. Maybe counters moves or reflects projectiles. Can also be used to break crates/barrels, or just turn stuff like hammers upside-down for comedic effect)
Mole Mitts (a B grab move, like Bowser's Melee B? or grabs under people throwing them straight up? or maybe buries them like the shovel)
Empty Bottle (see Wind Waker)

Phantom Hourglass:
Bombchu (works like hothead in Brawl, except it explodes on impact and stick to ANY surface. Automatically explodes if another is set down, or maybe there can be a limit of like 2 on the field at a time, like in PH)
Grappling Hook (see Wind Waker)
Hammer (see WW's Skull Hammer)
Shovel (see FSA)

Spirit Tracks
Whirlwind (Link blows, shoots a gust of wind like the Deku Leaf)
Whip (works like the Grappling Hook, only its a lot faster. Like it cracks instantly and if it hits someone, it causes minor damage and steals their item. Can also grab items on the stage from farther away and can ledge grab)
Sand Wand (creates a Wall of Sand in front of Link to black oncoming attacks. Can shoot people up a bit if they're right on top of it)

And that's pretty much all of the possibilities for Toon Link's items. I would suggest this, but I think a vote would be best.


B^: Deku Leaf, if standing it can become Whirlwind as an aesthetic change, and if midair can become Ezlo as another aesthetic change. These changes don't have to happen, but I think it's be interesting.
B: Slingshot
B>: Bottle
Bv: Bombchu
Grab:Grappling Hook
Taunts:
Flourish the Wind Waker
Play the Spirit Flute
Talk to Ezlo

[Ton]

I'm thinking these;

Grab- Gust Jar
Double Jump- Roc's Feather
up-B- Deku leaf
Down-B- Bombchu
B-
Side-B-
Forward Smash- Skull Hammer

[Wes]

Hmm, didn't think about double jump. I like the idea. And I know I suggested the Skull Hammer smash attack, but several people thought A should be only sword. But it guess it is up to vote. but as far as B moves, you agree with my suggestions at the bottom?

[Chaoxys]

My idea:

B^: Rocks cape- Link launches straight up I guess
B^ (hold up): Deku Leaf- He pulls out the leaf and uses it to glide back to stage. If you hit B (or was it A?) he will stop gliding and swing the leaf to knock anyone who would be waiting to hit him away from him.

B:Fire Rod- Works like the bow and arrow but slower... and with a fire ball... So I guess like a fire arrow. I guess the fire ball could sit where it lands for a few seconds like Ness's PK Fire.

vB: Skull Hammer- Swings on the ground in front of him, unless you fully charge it in which case he does a full spin.

<>B: Whip- Hurts enemies. If you hit them on the snap back, it flings them at you which can lead to combos.

Grab: Gust Jar- The character gets stuck on the front of the jar.

Grab attack- Link boots the foe while keeping them stuck.

^ Grab- He expels them up and takes a sword slice in the process.

v Grab- Hops up and expels the foe into the dirt.

<>Grab- Expels the enemy and just as they are released, Tink does a quick sword spin to knock them away.


I like Wes's Taunts

[Koopaul]

It seems kinda weird that you wanna combine all the different Toon Links movesets but when I suggested the same for Mega Man I got a big "NO"