Character Tweaks [revamped first post!]

[Iceman404]

An Internal Joke

[D2S-Speed]

Zero Suit Samus' down B should change, i think. Come on, she jumps forward. whats so great about that? Its just like giving her a third jump. If we keep the move, though, at least tweak it to be an attack.

Do you know anything about the attacks in Brawl? It's not just a jump when she jumps into the air you can press the attack button to do a meteor smash. I think it shouldn't be changed.

[Koopaul]

Did we decide to make Fire Falco have blue flames. Its only an aesthetic change but I think it will please a few people.

[Locked Achievement]

I makes sense to give falco blue flames

[Alpha Six]

Agreed.

[Iceman404]

(How about actually making his Up-B recovery better than Fox's because, you know...He's a bird. )

[Alpha Six]

That's a good one too-- give the Fire Falco more range and distance. In order to keep it balanced, make it slightly weaker.

I think it'd also be neater to give Falco more air control and giving him the ability to do slightly angled Phantasms if you hold Up and Forward + B. That might make him seem a little too much like Wolf though. I dunno. Just a thought.

[Iceman404]

Its actually a good Idea, but then we'd atleast have to nerf something else on him or it'd be a bit imbalanced.
How about giving his areal moves a boost, and downgrading his ground attacks?

[Shadowth117]

Its actually a good Idea, but then we'd atleast have to nerf something else on him or it'd be a bit imbalanced.
How about giving his areal moves a boost, and downgrading his ground attacks?

This sounds like a good idea, but if not that maybe make him lighter so he gets knocked around more?

[Iceman404]

Its actually a good Idea, but then we'd atleast have to nerf something else on him or it'd be a bit imbalanced.
How about giving his areal moves a boost, and downgrading his ground attacks?

This sounds like a good idea, but if not that maybe make him lighter so he gets knocked around more?

Then we'd have to update his traction so he stops on a dime.

[Shadowth117]

Its actually a good Idea, but then we'd atleast have to nerf something else on him or it'd be a bit imbalanced.
How about giving his areal moves a boost, and downgrading his ground attacks?

This sounds like a good idea, but if not that maybe make him lighter so he gets knocked around more?

Then we'd have to update his traction so he stops on a dime.

Not necessarily, its not like the physics in the Smash Bros. games make sense in the first place. Fox and Falco are both pretty lightweight to begin with, but fall like rocks as if they were heavier characters IIRC.

Besides like I said, its an idea if the aerial boost doesn't work too well. There's not really anything wrong that, but most of the moves in Smash bros are done on the ground and nerfing his ground attacks could potentially cripple him.

I have know way to really know if it would work better either way in the end I guess, but I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

[Iceman404]

Meh, Runouws engine can't be exactly like Brawl's, that's not possible, and its one of the best on the inernet. So it might not even be that noticable anyway.

[Tarvonas]

I for one really like the idea of having Falco's areals do more damage. It'd be so much more unique. It doesn't have to be drastic or anything, to avoid "crippling" him as Shadowth said would happen.

Not like this totally can't be discussed when the character is actually ready to be programmed or anything, though.

[Locked Achievement]

Not like this totally can't be discussed when the character is actually ready to be programmed or anything, though.

Thats exactly what this thread is for.

Also, I dont know if this has been discussed yet, but should Falco's Landmaster be the airwing instead? I dont know if this has been discussed, but if so, I think it should be slower than landmaster, but not affected by gravity.

[Alpha Six]

Falco Only
Controllable Arwing FS, as suggested by Tyvon

Wolf
Wolfen/Clusterbomb FS, as suggested by Tyvon