Bowser Jr.

[Neslug]

The Clown Car could just appear from a puff of white smoke (or maybe a splash of rainbow coloured goop if we really want it to be his thing). Plus there aren't that many recoveries that allow for good control over the flying trajectory, this could help differentiate him from his father even better.

[TomGuycott]

I personally think the brushcopter is a nicer idea than the clown car

I mean wouldnt it be harder to pull out of hammerspace? I know Wario had the bike, but atleast he had pockets to keep it in

Yes, but that brings up two things: Both are Helicopter-like, so neither are really better in terms of Up specials that aren't helicopter-like, so in that regard one isn't better than the other.

Two: he's actually used the Clown Car, he's never twirled his paintbrush like a helicopter. If there's one thing I've noticed in this project is the leeriness of making up new moves. Okay, but it WAS Shadow Mario, so it's a 50/50 thing.

And while I'm at it, a third thing: What about other characters who pull crazy crap out of hammerspace? Link with ALL his weapons, Wario's bike, Peach with Toad, Snake and the Cypher for crying out loud.

[[robo9]]

Well, what if BJ was hit? Or if he was spiked down? What would happened to the clown car? I mean riding in a hovering car means that it would be impossible to get spiked, unless you get hit like a mother fucker and apply a force greater than the motor, much greater.

[mutantyoshi]

why not the Koopa Clown Car, then in mid air, you can ditch it, and when you do, he ground pounds, almost like Dedede's Up B, when you can cancel in mid-air.

[Neslug]

It's a video game, the physics behind spiking the Clown Car don't have to make sense. In fact, a lot of things in Smash don't make sense. So just think of it as ROB's recovery, with...some technical change we can think of.

[TomGuycott]

Snake? SNAKE!? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!?

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Think about the physics behind Snake's Up special. HE resists being tossed around, doesn't he? And he's hanging on to something probably a fraction of his weight by his freaking hands!

[[robo9]]

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Two: he's actually used the Clown Car, he's never twirled his paintbrush like a helicopter.

Well in Sunshine, Shadow Mario did spin the paintbrush over his head like a helicopter propeller, so it's not like we're making up the idea out of nowhere. I think that latest moveset posted by SupahGoombah, with Paintbrush Copter UpB would be perfect. And maybe change the UpAir he suggested since it's similar the copter idea.

[mutantyoshi]

what about my idea with the Koopa Clown Car ditching thingy?

[[robo9]]

Wouldnt it basically be giving him 4 jumps, even though he goes straight down?

[mutantyoshi]

No, what we could do, is big poof of smoke, and then you see Jr. ground pounding, and like I said, it will be like Dedede's, and thats not another jump so, it could work.

[Neslug]

I think the Clown Car should end with a small explosion that briefly stuns Bowser Jr. until he lands on the ground. As with most other recoveries.

[Ton]

Too bad we can't have the Toadies lift him.

[[robo9]]

Oh my fucking god ton,


That's a neat idea

[mutantyoshi]

but he ain't Baby Bowser, hes Bowser Jr. Big Difference

Baby Bowser- Younger Bowser, King of the Koopas

Bowser Jr. -One of the eight children of Bowser, who is probably the only one who Bowser really cares for out of his children.

So, Having Bowser Jr. getting lifted by toadies, wont work, if he was Baby Bowser, then yes.

Unless you were being sarcastic, then I can understand.

[Neslug]

I would love the Toadies idea, but the only problem is that Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr. are different characters and therefore should not have any special attacks from each other.