Pokemon VGC '10!

[Cshad]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/P...d_Sapphire
Thats all the information you would need if you would want to make a legitimate hack of it. Probably not hard to spot, its only available in the 3rd gen, so you would have to hack a 3rd gen game for it to be harder to recognize as a hack.

I wouldn't think you would use Belly Drum Linoone in VGC, that would be a bad idea >:

[Rhyme]

omg, i just saw THE best strategy EVER


Pack 2 Explosion / Selfdestruct pokemon, and a ghost for your partner
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
You win.


I just ran into this and i literally shit a brick because it was so ingenious


yes i accidentally posted thisi n the wrong thread. this is why i hate tabs >:

[Cshad]

omg, i just saw THE best strategy EVER


Pack 2 Explosion / Selfdestruct pokemon, and a ghost for your partner
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
You win.


I just ran into this and i literally shit a brick because it was so ingenious


yes i accidentally posted thisi n the wrong thread. this is why i hate tabs >:

It seems to be the right thread

Also this strategy loses against Pokemon that can kill the exploders before they blow up, and opposing Ghost/Steel Pokemon, as well as Protect. I don't think there is a single ghost Pokemon that can learn Feint, so you'll have a hard time breaking through that. Whats ingenious is the guy who ran Infernape with a Focus Sash and Feint to break through Protects, switch out, then come back in to kill opposing Pokemon with Blaze boosted STAB Heat Waves.

[Rhyme]

i might actually run that infernape, now that you mention it. though i must admit i'm quite scared of the kyogres everyone uses

[-Dark-]

omg, i just saw THE best strategy EVER


Pack 2 Explosion / Selfdestruct pokemon, and a ghost for your partner
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
Explode. 2 pokemon gone.
You win.


I just ran into this and i literally shit a brick because it was so ingenious


yes i accidentally posted thisi n the wrong thread. this is why i hate tabs >:

This sounds amazing.

Metagross would make a great exploder with a gengar or someone by its side.
252 speed and attack metagross with a choice scarf could shit all over any team

except ghost types :<

but thats when speedy gengar comes in with focus blast to take out rock/steel types and shadow ball for ghosts

idk im just brainstorming but this sounds awesome

[JarJar]

only sableye can learn feint by breeding in hgss.

[Rosencrantz]

so then

what kind of strategies can I pull off with a Dragon-Dancing Kingdra?

Seriously; I don't know what I can do with it, who to pair it with, etc.

I want to give it Ice Beam to knock out most of the other non-legendary dragons and Rayquaza (since, you know, Dragonite/Salamence/Flygon/Garchomp all take 4x damage from it), and then of course give it its STABs
but I know Gyarados will wreck it, along with Dialga, and every other pokemon that has some sort of Dragon-type move (like Lucario)

but idk what else I should pair it with. I have, literally, no strategy here :C

edit: oh, right, and I was told to use Substitute, too


edit2: oh, whoops, just realized I'm aiming for a SPECIAL sweeper, not a physical sweeper, ahahaha. Guess I'm cutting out the Dragon Dance

[GrooveMan.exe]

Well, since there's going to be Rain effects everywhere, you could just rely on Swift Swim to get you through. I think Kingdra might learn regular Agility anyway.

[Rosencrantz]

yep, level 23

I think I was going to make it a swift swimmer anyway, but then there's the deal with Rayquaza and Airlock. But seeing as how Kyogre's being favored, then
welp~

[Cshad]

so then

what kind of strategies can I pull off with a Dragon-Dancing Kingdra?

Seriously; I don't know what I can do with it, who to pair it with, etc.

I want to give it Ice Beam to knock out most of the other non-legendary dragons and Rayquaza (since, you know, Dragonite/Salamence/Flygon/Garchomp all take 4x damage from it), and then of course give it its STABs
but I know Gyarados will wreck it, along with Dialga, and every other pokemon that has some sort of Dragon-type move (like Lucario)

but idk what else I should pair it with. I have, literally, no strategy here :C

edit: oh, right, and I was told to use Substitute, too


edit2: oh, whoops, just realized I'm aiming for a SPECIAL sweeper, not a physical sweeper, ahahaha. Guess I'm cutting out the Dragon Dance

I wouldn't use a Pokemon that, in order to use properly, has to use a set up move, you wont have time with all the Legendaries running around, use Choice Specs and Have Kyogre as a partner. Swift Swim Boost and a 1.5 special attack bonus. I'd also suggest using another weather abuser, as relying on a strategy that is so easily shut down is going to be a major problem.

Also Gyarados's only Dragon Attack iirc is Outrage, which is balls in doubles because it randomly selects a target. If you are worried about Dialga and other Pokemon like him run a lead set of Pokemon that use moves like Low Kick and Fake Out, just find a way to stop him. He'll also almost always be using Trick Room (some Palkia use it as well but idk), if that helps.

[Rosencrantz]

I wouldn't use a Pokemon that, in order to use properly, has to use a set up move, you wont have time with all the Legendaries running around, use Choice Specs and Have Kyogre as a partner. Swift Swim Boost and a 1.5 special attack bonus. I'd also suggest using another weather abuser, as relying on a strategy that is so easily shut down is going to be a major problem.

Whoop, I can't believe I didn't think of Kyogre :c
but who else should I use as a weather abuser?



and I'm liking how Kyogre's moveset looks; it should do wonders with my Kingdra

Also Gyarados's only Dragon Attack iirc is Outrage, which is balls in doubles because it randomly selects a target. If you are worried about Dialga and other Pokemon like him run a lead set of Pokemon that use moves like Low Kick and Fake Out, just find a way to stop him. He'll also almost always be using Trick Room (some Palkia use it as well but idk), if that helps.

Actually, that helped a lot
I was worried since Gyarados had several dragon moves. Among these include (besides Outrage) Dragon Rage, Twister, and Dragon Pulse
I could have sworn it also knew Dragon Breath for some reason, ahaha

[Cshad]

Dragon Rage has set damage and Twister (as well as Dragon Pulse) work off of his weaker attack stat. The only reason you would see Gyarados anyways would be because it has another Intimidate user as its partner, putting both other oppositions Pokemon as -2 attack. Gyarados's special attack sucks >:

Abomasnow @ Focus Sash
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Quiet or Modest
252 HP / 252 SAtk / 6 SpD
- Blizzard
- Protect
- Grass Knot/Energy Ball
- Ice Shard

+

Mewtwo @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Timid / Naive / Hasty
EVs: 4 Attack / 252 Sp. Attack / 252 Speed
- Blizzard
- Thunder
- Aura Sphere / Fire Blast
- Taunt / Self Destruct

You should use these guys.
http://skarmbliss.com/mewtwo2010sweeper.html
http://skarmbliss.com/abomasnow2010.html

Explanations on the sets there~

[GrooveMan.exe]

Maaan, you're making this start to sound like effort.

[Rhyme]

so it seems me and gabe are the only ones from tSR reaching for hawaii, at a minimum.

and yeah thats the Abomasnow/Mewtwo combo i said everyone and their mothers going to be leading with. So pack a Rayquaza (negates weather) or something to counter them both.

[water dog]

i would aim for hawaii but im not a competitive tier retard

at least the TCG has room for rogues